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APEX x Reference Point Panel

Ep 003 featuring Alex Puliatti, Rhianna Cohen, and Ester Freider. Held at Reference Point 180 on 6.09.

The panel discussion at the book launch for "APEX" explored the intersection of digital culture, consumer behavior, and societal trends. Key points included the impact of unregulated online expression on identity fluidity, the blurring of realities, and predictions for future consumer culture. Panelists, including Alex Puliatti, Ester Freider, and Rhianna Cohen, discussed the shift from participation to performance, the role of AI in authenticity, and the importance of brands embracing a clear point of view. They also highlighted the trend of hyper-personalization, the potential for timeless digital content, and the blending of digital and physical experiences.

Outline with Time Stamps:

Book Launch Introduction and Theme

  • 02:24 Introducing APEX, focusing on rationalizing modes of expression and view of the self in the online world. The book explores the blend between cyber and natural realms, emphasizing the importance of coexistence and teamwork.

  • 03:04 Andrea Evgenieva (AE) coined the term "cybernatural" to describe this blend, aiming to encourage a future of coexistence. APEX challenges traditional narratives and creates space for new perspectives on digital culture, consumer behavior, and societal trends.

Panel Introduction and Panelists' Backgrounds

  • 04:33 AE introduces the panel featuring Alex Puliatti (AP), Ester Freider (EF) and Rhianna Cohen (RC). AP is a creative technologist and machine learning researcher, EF is a writer, digital curator, and founder of creative collective ‘Everyone is a Girl’, and RC is a digital anthropologist and creative director of MØRNING.FYI. The panel will focus on the impact of unregulated self-expression online and the fluidity of identity in a tech-mediated world.

Discussion on Societal Acceleration and Self-Expression

  • 07:32 AE asks panelists about the impact of societal acceleration and over-consumerism on online users' shift from participation to performance.

  • 08:01 RC discusses how constant online presence affects self-perception and consumption habits.

  • 09:03 AE and AP talk about the fragmentation of identities and the role of subcultures in personalization.

  • 09:39 AP highlights the increasing role of AI in content generation and its impact on authenticity.

Brand Strategy and Community Building

  • 15:18 RC emphasizes the importance of brands having a clear point of view and aligning with their values. AE and RC discuss the role of brands in leading culture and the importance of community building. Panelists talk about the trend of brands becoming entertainment companies and the need for hyper-personalization.

Meta Fantasy and Myth Making

  • 17:18 AE introduces the concept of "meta fantasy" from APEX, focusing on the blend of technology and nature. RC explains how brands can use fantasy to dream and create new futures.

  • 20:42 EF discusses the concept of the "information sublime" and the impact of limitless online content.

Long vs. Short Shelf Life and Timeless Concepts

  • 25:41 AE asks about the potential for digital content to have timeless value. RC mentions the influence of Tumblr and the trend of micro-trends.

  • 27:57 AE and AP discuss the role of archives in fashion and the importance of historical data. AP highlights the trend of hyper-personalization and the potential of 3D printing for individualized clothing.

Future of Consumer Culture and Human Relationships

  • 34:04 AE asks about the long-term consequences of technology on human relationships and communication. AP discusses the impact of AI on authenticity and the normalization of AI-generated content. RC talks about the ease of purchase and the potential for richer IRL experiences. EF suggests that people might become more minimalist in their purchases due to the ease of online shopping.

Blending Digital and Physical Experiences

  • 45:49 AE asks about the future of consumer culture in response to the fusion of digital and physical experiences. Panelists emphasize the importance of hyper-personalization and breaking the fourth wall in retail.

Q&A Session and Closing Remarks

  • 52:43 Audience Member asks about the role of absurdity and irony in online culture. Panelists support the idea of using absurdity to resist capitalist exploitation.

  • 54:32 Audience Member asks about the perception of brands and their influence on culture. Panelists emphasize the positive impact of brands on culture and the importance of clear creative points of view.

  • 57:00 Audience Member asks about the nostalgia for free brands and the historical context of branding. AE and EF discuss the romanticization of Catholicism and the role of religion in branding.

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